Just wondering what role, if any, are foundation residents to have and act upon. From the Foundation residents page, I read:

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• A Voice via your Foundation Resident Votes, be heard and help us with in-world decision making.
• Recognition as a Pioneer, being a Foundation Resident. "

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If we have votes and in-world decision making, we need regular meetings and some sort of agenda. We need a vision of what kind of world we want to develop. Let me throw in a first item on this agenda:

A number of voices have expressed their desire to have many waterways in-world. This is nice. But those waterways need to be kept open to be useful. So we should agree that no matter how strong the temptation is, we should never put up structures on waterways that would block, restrict or impede in any way the passage of watercrafts of any kind. We can build bridges, piers, decks and pontoons at the edges of waterways, but never cover the waterways with prims in order to put up buildings, stores, malls, etc... so that the waterways becomes just a piece of land to build on. Waterways should retain their original nature and intent: to provide an area suitable for water activities of all kind. Any building that would change this original nature and intent should be avoided.

What say you, fellow foundation residents?

Sure I agree with this as well. My thought about the foundation resisdent is under Sakai we can propose an idea, thought ,question or concern to be submitted into a proposal to be talked about then voted on by foundation residents for pass/no-pass and post these via web as the charter of agreed guidelines.The idea here is to be able to get your vote on a proposal and give all a chance to be aware of things that are happening across the grid so no one misses a conversation about a proposal that is up for a decesion.

I like cheese

The forum food is at SL forums. I think it's pie that the cartel serves. Let's leave it there.

I too have to agree with the waterway/airway discussion.

I came here to create an enviroment where the deaf and disabled can feel free to do what they cannot in RL...move freely about, without barriers. In these virtual worlds, they are on an even playing field with others...while they have to work-around curbs, stairs, and other objects, in the RL,  that many of us take for granted, in a virtual world, they can fly, dance, "hear"...and so much more of life can be enjoyable for them...even if in a voyeuristic way only.

For all foundation residents, respecting the charter would be voluntary. When it will be possible to sell parcels of land, the owner of the region may or may not adhere to the charter. If the owner of the region chooses to follow the charter, then it would be up to the owner to make the charter know to parcel buyers and to enforce the charter.

The point of the charter is to provide a set of guidelines that all foundation residents can agree on. Those that don't agree with the charter can opt out. It's all voluntary, simply because there is no way to enforce a charter in a open source virtual world where everybody is anonymous. As long as all servers belong to one person or company, maybe enforcement is possible, but is it desired?

Once separate servers start joining the grid, with different server owners from different countries, how can you enforce any charters? Who will be in control?

The best we can do, as far as I know, is to write down our preferences and how we wish the use of the virtual landscape, and share this vision with the rest of the community, be it at the foundation resident level or any level of residents.

If we write it, people will read it, maybe even be inspired by it, and live by it.

There is an analog in real life called "admiralty law" which is the first form of international law. Essentially it gaurantees "peaceful passage" for any non-military shipping. It is also totally separate from any law of any country!

I suggest though that anyone who wants to get a picture of the reality of "conflicting jurisdictions" try using a small avatar (it doesn't even have to LOOK like a child) and then roam around the Second Life grid for a week or so!

There are so many "hate group" vigilaties that no "child appearing" avatar could possibly be safe!

This is only one example of the radically different views of the exact same event that you would discover in real life - "you filthy dog what do you mean I should allow MY wife out without her burka ..."

In Pananma, my partner was scolded by the women manning a car rental booth for allow ing a WOMAN to check the oil and water on our rental car!

In RL I have travelled enough to have seen most of these things first hand!

Among th emore upsetting was seing a 12 year old soliciting grown (45 yrs old!) men for "marriage" so her family can get a US "Green card"!

In at least some of the world this is considered a reasonable "sacrifice" for the family. *I* saw this personally in the American Samoa Yacht Club (Pago Pago, AS) in 1998. Email me for exact times dates and names (I would have to look then up in my diary). BTW the man was jsut as upset as I was.

What an interesting thread!  

We have to have thick skins if we are to work together.   I suggest Pleather.   (Hehehe -- the region I think I purchased.) 

We're in the General Forum and the topic is what we are here for so I may ramble a bit.  First I think this topic is important enough that it deserves its own topic... with undoubtedly many many threads.   As a total newbie here (two days old!) I'm not sure how to do this or if it would be proper.   In any case please allow me to ramble on a bit here.

My vision as yet is still a misty dream with rays of dawn lighting it up in a most promising and joyous way.   (Yes I wax poetic often enough to become annoying.   :-P    Just let me know when I start being annoying and I will tone it down.)

As a Founder I currently  (I do meander in my beliefs when information emerges that nudges me toward different views)  think that we as Founders have to be positive and lead in the manner that we want to see as an emergent trajectory -- especially as we are Founders in an M15 virtuality.   I'm here to build a peaceful virtual world.   This in my mind is one where non-concensual sexuality and violence (aspects of the same thing really) are not tolerated as this will be a public world.   Private worlds cannot be governed other than by the dictators or oligarchies that run them.   Public worlds can be governed as defacto civilizations--a place composed of civil (citizen) laws or agreements that are implemented for the benefit of the whole.   I am a pessimist but I try to counter this with pie-eyed optimism.   :-))

While it is not a model with which I wholeheartedly agree -- the old anthropological model of marriage & kinship, culture & language, technology & science, govenment & politics, exchange & economics, religion & beliefs.... might be a good place for us to start.  

Will we limit how families may be created?   

Will there be an official language?

Are there technologies we will not allow?

Will there be laws?

Will exchange be regulated?  Will it be through an economic system?  (Red feather money?  Pay Pal?)

Are there beliefs that we will not allow to be expressed?  (Public copulation and actions intended to hurt another? What about non-intentional harm?)

I suspect that we will have to answer yes to all these questions, but how we constrain them (through both limiting and enabling constraints)  is up in the air --except for what has already been laid out by our Creator (all hail Sakai!)

My own views on some of these follow:

I personally am going to encourage the creation of a Grandmother's Council on Pleather.  I'm not sure what that will entail as yet.  But I am sure it is going to grow through the input of many "Grandmothers."  In real life I am not a Grandmother but I am of an age and sex where that could reasonably be a role I might inhabit.   No, my land will not be Women's Land. 

I would like to see trains and waterways be public works.  

I would like us to think of Open Life  as the public sidewalks of an emergent network of virtual worlds.    If Second Life is highway, then let's think of Open Life as sidewalks or even narrow cobblestone streets or forest paths.    Let's look at every parcel as needing to have modes of standardized egress and connection to public access to all other parcels other than through teleport.   I personaly would like to be able to walk down the paths in my region and continue my walk on public thoroughfares through my neighbors' lands.  And this would also mean that selfish property owners would have to give up to a set percentage of their land to be no less than a certain amount to connect to public transportation networks.  Perhaps we should have all adjoining neighbors have to agree to builds outside of certain limits?  This would promote community and limit the exponential degredation of neighborhoods into ad farms.

This is just a start.   I have more ideas, but public works seems like a good topic to focus on until we all get settled.   How many founders will there be?   How quickly will land be added.    Will there be visiual Ports with information about the personal grids that connect to Open Life?  (Immigration offices?  Space stations?  Creepy underground tunnels?  Worm holes? 

Namaste.

Nana

Nana quote.."..I would like to see trains and waterways be public works.  "

How much authority the public works should have..will it totally pre-empt the parcel owner?? For example if a river run through 75% of the landowner's parcel, will the land owner lose control of the 75% area. If so how would you compensate the parcel owner.