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New Post 2/16/2008 7:44 AM
User is offline Abby Noel
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The Community at Openlife 

Hi i have just bought a region, and i am looking forward to my life on openlife.  I was pleased to see in some of the terms and conditions, no explicit sexual acitivies will be tolerated....I see openlife as perhaps secondlife was when it first started, but my question is:

Will it end up like secondlife, with brothels, casinos, chiild avatars?

How are we are a new community going to proctect ourselves from this on openlife?

What about lag?  Will it end up all lagged up like secondlife?

What about prices, i bet secondlife started off at a reasonable price as well.

I guess i am happy now with openlife, but what will it become, and how are we as residents going to be able to protect our community?

I would like to see openlife free of gambling, brothes, child sex, violence etc?

Thanks

Elly Andersson

 
New Post 2/16/2008 8:15 AM
User is offline Pratyeka Muromachi
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Re: The Community at Openlife 
Modified By Pratyeka Muromachi  on 2/16/2008 8:16:04 AM)

Hi Elly! I share your vision of an Openlife free of the common human vices, but realistically, you may expect these to appear as soon as the LSL will allow it. And it will surely boom when residents figure out a way to use currency in Openlife, even if the exchange of currency happens somewhere else than in Openlife.

People are always looking to make a buck whenever they can. Not many are content just to create something beautiful for everyone to enjoy freely.

On this, let's not be pessimistic and let's try to lead by example. Since we are among the first Foundation residents, let our creativity shine and maybe, just maybe some people will follow in and open their mind on another way of looking at the universe that does not involve greed at all cost...


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New Post 2/16/2008 8:32 AM
User is offline Abby Noel
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Re: The Community at Openlife 

Well making a buck is the least of the vices, what about paedafilia, brothes, etc.....????  I hope they will not be tolerated here!!!  And lag? will there be some restriction on big skyscrapers & over use of scripts?  I am just hoping this will be better than sl...after all thats why i came here!!!

 

 
New Post 2/16/2008 8:52 AM
User is offline Lapsus Mimir
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Re: The Community at Openlife 
Modified By Lapsus Mimir  on 2/16/2008 8:54:57 AM)

Hi Elly and Pratyeka :-)

I also am quite optimistic, competition can improve OpenSims and also Second Life, if we'll let these Grids to inter-communicate, since I think that for a few months or years we have to triplicate our presence, First Life, Second Life and Open Life (I like very much this last definition!)

Ciao ciao

 

 

Lapsus (Weinstein, SL)

 


"Ciò che mi preme è comprendere. Se altri comprendono - nello stesso senso in cui io ho compreso - allora provo un senso di appagamento, come quando ci si sente a casa in un luogo" (Hannah Arendt)
 
New Post 2/16/2008 9:11 AM
User is offline Pratyeka Muromachi
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Re: The Community at Openlife 

 Elly Andersson wrote

Well making a buck is the least of the vices, what about paedafilia, brothes, etc.....????  I hope they will not be tolerated here!!!  And lag? will there be some restriction on big skyscrapers & over use of scripts?  I am just hoping this will be better than sl...after all thats why i came here!!!

 

Well, as sim owner, you have total control over the future content of your sim, and the lag on your sim will be dependent upon the content. If most Foundation residents share the same idealistic vision, we can make it happen, at least in the regions under our control. What the future has in store for the rest of openlife, nobody knows for sure, but the human nature is not about to change for the sake of any virtual world. Greed, ignorance and passion are the prime motivators of unenlightened beings, and the only way they will cure themselves of ignorance is if they choose to follow another path away from these.

 


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New Post 2/16/2008 9:24 AM
User is offline Abby Noel
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Re: The Community at Openlife 

I agree with what your saying... and yes i agree i can control what goes on in my parcel....but as a community here right now, will we be given a choice to what we will and wont tolerate on openlife...like child avatars ...thats my main concern....Surely, openlife might come up with some sort of policy to not tolerate this type of behaviour!!!  Thats my hope, that this type of behaviour will be kept out of openlife.

Elly

 
New Post 2/16/2008 9:32 AM
User is offline Pratyeka Muromachi
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Re: The Community at Openlife 

Of course, a clear policy like you describe would be fantastic. But Openlife is destined to become just that, a congregation of sims that are hosted on private servers and connected to a common grid, just like the internet is a collection of private websites hosted on servers all over the planet. Real life laws govern the internet, the same laws will apply in Openlife. At least, that's what I understand about Openlife, correct me If I'm wrong.

 


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New Post 2/16/2008 9:46 AM
User is offline Phoenix Aeon
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Re: The Community at Openlife 

I can safely say that I also share the vision for a cleaner and safer OpenLife.

And in my own sim, I will for certain be placing quality of content 100% above any plans for a quick buck.

I was around to see the launch of Second Life, and it was quite a painfull experience. This has outdone the LL grid and come away shining from its current launch states. Back then, taking into account the economic cliemates also it was not reasonably priced and this, even with the modest region fees is a bargain in comparison. You had to pay $10USD a month just for basic access back then, the equivilent of todays LL free basic account before the stipends were dis-continued for new accounts. I was present (as an innocent onlooker who frequented the venue, and was in no way actually involved) to see the Club Elite experience and the mirriad of problems that started there that form the foundations of many of the LL grids current social problems.

As early adopters we have the ability if we work together to set a precedent that can carry far into the future of this grid.

 
New Post 2/16/2008 10:18 AM
User is offline Pratyeka Muromachi
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Re: The Community at Openlife 

That's the spirit! I can see that some of the desillusioned SL pioneers will flock here to get a new start and work very hard to avoid the mistakes of SL, and that's the normal course in this virtual reality universe. Mistakes will be made and learned from. The only thing we can hope for at this early time of Openlife, is that those of us with previous experience as content creators will form a solid community that will stand together and shine with purpose that benefit everyone.

 


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New Post 2/16/2008 3:49 PM
User is offline Macca (Ret)
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Re: The Community at Openlife 
Modified By Macca (Ret)  on 2/16/2008 3:55:28 PM)

It's an exciting time for "The Grid" in general. With home based sims just a hop, skip and short/medium jump away.

I think we can keep most of the nuisance things almost under control with the terms of service agreements.
Because the annoying places will have somewhere else to go, and even better for them they can just do it them selves. Make their own rules. The sex trade will boom BIG time and are probably warming up their servers just waiting for the opensims and some private ones, along with LL to get organised, get the sims connected (and the tech problems sorted) and their victims to sign up. If they aren't/haven't already.

But yeah, there will be a cost to us I think. they will need to advertise and need collection and transfer points. but I think we won't get the actual casinos and sex trade here. People might be paid to 'guide' newcomers to their help island.

Anyway..I reckon, Servers and grids, along with home based regions, are going to be popping up like websites did and with the varied range that goes along with it. And as the web grew, so did trouble which governments took years to see it was there and make some rules.
I'm guessing the journey will be similar but we do already have some rules in place. I look forward from Australia to the "Grid Griefer Bill" though.

Cheers!


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New Post 2/18/2008 4:09 AM
Online now... pinky
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Re: The Community at Openlife 

quote.."That's the spirit! I can see that some of the desillusioned SL pioneers will flock here to get a new start and work very hard to avoid the mistakes of SL"

Desillusioned experiences will not disappear....it is up to the individual find his/her path and to come to term with the journal....that has been chosen. Of course a strong visionary or sage will help sometime..hope you are one of those rare gene..

 
New Post 2/18/2008 4:18 AM
User is offline Pratyeka Muromachi
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Re: The Community at Openlife 

 pinky wrote


Desillusioned experiences will not disappear....it is up to the individual find his/her path and to come to term with the journal....that has been chosen. Of course a strong visionary or sage will help sometime..hope you are one of those rare gene..

In SL, I could not afford to have control over a whole sim. Here I do. Within the boundaries of Splendid I will be able to complete the project I had started in SL but was forced to abort because of the state of anarchy all over the mainland. Here in Openlife, it's the pioneer spirit all over again, like the early days of SL.


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New Post 2/18/2008 7:49 AM
User is offline Atashi
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Re: The Community at Openlife 

Seems to me that on a grid that is rated M15 the worry about "child avatars" is misplaced.

 
New Post 2/18/2008 8:21 AM
Online now... Violet Indigo
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Re: The Community at Openlife 

Just what I was going to say: we have at least one 15 year old on the grid already; why shoudln't 15 year olds be allowed to look 15?  And I certainly hope that we will not end up with the SL witchhunt of short avies.  I'm short in RL and short in my second and open lives.

 
New Post 2/18/2008 8:25 AM
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Re: The Community at Openlife 
Modified By Violet Indigo  on 2/18/2008 8:27:44 AM)

Incidentally the porn merchants have already tried to get in! 

We had a big "discussion" with one in the chatroom yesterday in which he kept saying accusingly  that it was a control issue; to which I replied "Yes, of course it is a control issue"!  He seemed to think that there was something wrong with us wanting to control adult material.

Another one today demanded his money back for the two regions that he had bought... without reading the T&C first!

 
New Post 2/18/2008 8:42 AM
User is offline Pratyeka Muromachi
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Re: The Community at Openlife 

 Violet Indigo wrote

 

Another one today demanded his money back for the two regions that he had bought... without reading the T&C first!

A case of premature acquisition, no doubt!


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New Post 2/18/2008 9:03 AM
User is offline Atashi
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Re: The Community at Openlife 

 Violet Indigo wrote

Incidentally the porn merchants have already tried to get in! 

We had a big "discussion" with one in the chatroom yesterday in which he kept saying accusingly  that it was a control issue; to which I replied "Yes, of course it is a control issue"!  He seemed to think that there was something wrong with us wanting to control adult material.

Another one today demanded his money back for the two regions that he had bought... without reading the T&C first!

 

I missed that.  What did they want to use their regions for?

 
New Post 2/18/2008 9:27 AM
Online now... Violet Indigo
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Re: The Community at Openlife 

I don't know - I only caught the conversation as s/he was being told that the grid was 15+  and then s/he demanded money back and was told to contact Sakai.

 
New Post 2/18/2008 9:57 AM
User is offline Abby Noel
23 posts
Openlife Newbie


Re: The Community at Openlife 

I am quite sure peole know my reference to child avatars had to do with sexual acitivities, and not to do with the height of a persons avatar......What people do in there own homes is their own business...but... I hoped that openlife would be free of child avatars and that type of sexual activity....

Elly

 
New Post 2/18/2008 10:51 AM
User is offline Atashi
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Re: The Community at Openlife 

Will it end up like secondlife, with brothels, casinos, chiild avatars?

That's what I read Elly, sorry if I misunderstood. 

 
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